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  • #1 Sep 17, 2013

    I'm fairly certain I know the answer to this question but I thought I'd elicit the wisdom of the Minecraft community to see if anyone has first hand knowledge...

    I'm in the process of creating a Minecraft Bestiary in my current survival world. I'm using nametags to prevent the mobs from de-spawning. Of course any self-respecting bestiary wouldn't be complete without a Spider Jockey. My concern is that since Spider Jockeys are a combination of two mobs that only rarely appear as a combo a nametag applied would only attach to one of the two mobs thereby allowing the "other half" to de-spawn.
    I've done a bit of research and don't come up with any articles that directly address this question. I'd try this but I hate to waste the nametag... they're awfully hard to come up with (I don't use cheats).
    Any comments or personal experiences would be appreciated.

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  • #2 Sep 17, 2013

    You might try naming the spider to something that people wont notice like a "." then name the skeleton to whatever you were planning on naming it.

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  • #3 Sep 17, 2013

    I would make a Creative World and try it on there to see if you need one or two.

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  • #4 Sep 17, 2013

    you can try it on creative, see if you need to name both mobs.,

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  • #5 Sep 17, 2013

    I would make a Creative World and try it on there to see if you need one or two.


    you can try it on creative, see if you need to name both mobs.,

    Excellent suggestions...I think. I don't spend much time in creative, do mobs de-spawn? If so, this would be the perfect way to test it.

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  • #6 Sep 17, 2013

    This is a really good question, actually! I'm curious to know as well. I'd assume that you'd need to use 2 nametags, but possibly not?

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  • #7 Sep 17, 2013

    For things not involving the player, Creative works like Survival. Basically, the differences are that the player is invulnerable, immortal (except when entering the Void), has infinite stuff, and access to all the / commands So, yes, mobs would despawn normally.

    Also, if you figure out how to get a creeper into a cage on Survival without it blowing up, please let me know. I can't think of a good way to do it, except maybe something really elaborate with pistons.

    By the way, I think you mean menagerie, not bestiary; a bestiary is an encyclopedic book about animals, while a menagerie is a collection of actual animals.

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  • #8 Sep 17, 2013

    For things not involving the player, Creative works like Survival. Basically, the differences are that the player is invulnerable, immortal (except when entering the Void), has infinite stuff, and access to all the / commands So, yes, mobs would despawn normally.

    Also, if you figure out how to get a creeper into a cage on Survival without it blowing up, please let me know. I can't think of a good way to do it, except maybe something really elaborate with pistons.

    By the way, I think you mean menagerie, not bestiary; a bestiary is an encyclopedic book about animals, while a menagerie is a collection of actual animals.

    Foolishly I had already caged a number of lesser volatile critters nearby so I didn't want to run the risk of any explosions damaging adjacent cages or killing the inhabitants.To initially trap the creeper I built its room (3x3x3) with obsidian as the rear and side walls, glass blocks as the fourth wall leaving the bottom outer blocks of the glass wall open. In the center of the glass wall I put a door with a pressure plate on the outside and a 1x1 block hole on either side of the pressure plate. On the back obsidian wall I left a 1x2 block area open for access from the outside. The rest was just trial and error and lucky timing. I got the Creeper to chase me into the chamber through the back wall, ran through the door which was triggered shut by the pressure plate, dropped into one of the 1x1 holes and plugged the back wall hole with dirt before he could get out. It took several tries to get him in there but I finally was successful. Then it was just a matter of replacing the wall blocks one by one with something a little less gloomy than the obsidian. By digging them out at an angle and replacing them one at a time the creeper doesn't see you directly through the hole so it won't trigger his "fuse". So far I have the following in my "menagerie"(thank you for the correction)
    Zombie, Zombie Pigman, Slime, Skeleton, Witch, Squid, Cow, Sheep, Pig, Chicken, Horse, Donkey, Mule, Iron Golem, Creeper, Ocelot, Wolf.
    Still working on a system to get a Magma Cube, Wither Skeleton and Blaze through to the overworld. And I'm about to embark on the inevitably long search for a mushroom biome to capture the elusive Mooshroom!
    Think I'll probably have to wait until the 1.7 update and huge portals to get a Ghast.

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  • #9 Sep 17, 2013

    By the way, I think you mean menagerie, not bestiary; a bestiary is an encyclopedic book about animals, while a menagerie is a collection of actual animals.

    a bestiary can also be a physical structure for maintaining and catalogueing animals so the OP was using it correctly

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  • #10 Sep 17, 2013

    I'm fairly certain I know the answer to this question but I thought I'd elicit the wisdom of the Minecraft community to see if anyone has first hand knowledge...

    I'm in the process of creating a Minecraft Bestiary in my current survival world. I'm using nametags to prevent the mobs from de-spawning. Of course any self-respecting bestiary wouldn't be complete without a Spider Jockey. My concern is that since Spider Jockeys are a combination of two mobs that only rarely appear as a combo a nametag applied would only attach to one of the two mobs thereby allowing the "other half" to de-spawn.
    I've done a bit of research and don't come up with any articles that directly address this question. I'd try this but I hate to waste the nametag... they're awfully hard to come up with (I don't use cheats).
    Any comments or personal experiences would be appreciated.

    I just want to say that making a bestiary/menagerie/zoo is brilliant! I don't know why I have not thought of this before... this is totally going to be my next project!

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